My journey from full frame Canon, to Fuji, to full frame Sony and back to Fuji again
I started off photography about 8 or 9 years ago with a 20D my dad handed down to me after he bought a 5D2 for his business. I imagine he was in some way hoping his interest in photography would manifest in someone down the line, as none of my siblings before me seemed to take much interest in it (though my little sister has recently started shooting as well).
I enjoyed it, but I never really cared about photography while I owned my 20D, too distracted by other hobbies and being in my late teens/early 20's at the time.
I enjoyed it, but I never really cared about photography while I owned my 20D, too distracted by other hobbies and being in my late teens/early 20's at the time.
It wasn't until my 20D was stolen that I began to realize that I had a genuine interest in photography... we don't know what we've got 'till it's gone... they paved paradise and put up a parking... sorry, I'll try to keep this on track....
I longed to have that camera back, so I bought myself a Canon T2i (550D) to replace it. I loved my T2i. That camera made me eager to get out and shoot and learn, and learn and shoot some more.
I found myself very quickly obsessed with photography, when I wasn't shooting I was watching videos or reading on how to improve my photography, joining forums, the lot.
I shot with my T2i for about a year and before long I found myself wanting more from my images, because of the internet being... well, the internet (full of the usual sensationalism), I decided it was my camera holding me back and it was time to upgrade.
I was making a little money shooting and doing it so often I felt I could justify a nicer camera and I bought myself a Canon 6D... because you know, it's only better if it's full frame obviously.
I loved my 6D because it opened the door for me to shooting manual lenses.
I got my first manual lens from a friend who bought a Yashica ElectroAX with a 50/1.7 DS-M he found in a thrift store that he decided I should have as a random gift. He didn't realize I had never really shot film aside from a few times with my dad and unfortunately back then I had no interest in learning how to develop it... but I bought an adapter and threw the lens on my 6D and quickly fell in love with using MF glass on digital cameras. I bought a precision focusing screen for it and started my MF lens collection... which is now growing out of control. If someone has a remedy, please share, the itch is so hard to ignore 0_0
I got my first manual lens from a friend who bought a Yashica ElectroAX with a 50/1.7 DS-M he found in a thrift store that he decided I should have as a random gift. He didn't realize I had never really shot film aside from a few times with my dad and unfortunately back then I had no interest in learning how to develop it... but I bought an adapter and threw the lens on my 6D and quickly fell in love with using MF glass on digital cameras. I bought a precision focusing screen for it and started my MF lens collection... which is now growing out of control. If someone has a remedy, please share, the itch is so hard to ignore 0_0
I sold my T2i to a friend pretty much as soon as I bought my 6D and I shot with only the 6D for a few months before realizing that I hated taking it everywhere... even with a lightweight 50mm lens on it, it was much heavier and bulkier than my old T2i (which was often still too bulky to bring everywhere), so I took advantage of the super cheap EOS M that had recently come out and used that for a bit... again, loving it.
A shot from my EOS M with a Yashica ML 50mm f1.4
For a while I used this setup, the 6D for my enjoyment/paid gigs and the M for my daily camera, but I got frustrated and wished I could just have an in-between camera... so I then looked to Fuji.
I settled on an X-E1 because I was able to find one for pretty cheap with the 18-55mm, so I ordered one and almost immediately fell in love with the thing. I loved the body, I loved the size, the weight, the controls, the looks, the lens and even the RAWs... all of it.
I settled on an X-E1 because I was able to find one for pretty cheap with the 18-55mm, so I ordered one and almost immediately fell in love with the thing. I loved the body, I loved the size, the weight, the controls, the looks, the lens and even the RAWs... all of it.
I kept the 6D and X-E1 as a kit for a little while, until I realized I was far more often reaching for my X-E1 and leaving the 6D at home.
After a while I just wished I could combine the two cameras (sensing a trend yet?), I wanted something that could give me the true "full frame look" (more on that later) and the better high ISO handling of my 6D in a body more like the X-E1, so I delved into the Sony a7 world with the a7R.
I got the a7R knowing full well that I really wanted an a7S or a7ii (which I think had only just been announced), but the a7R was way cheaper on the used market and I knew I could buy it, test it out for a bit and then flip it at little or no loss, sort of a long term rental is how I justify it... in fact it worked out perfectly because I ended up breaking even on it after a couple months of use with it... score!
I loved that it was small and a lot lighter than my 6D. It seemed to fit the bill perfectly, but I hated it's sensor and the noise the shutter made (you've all heard the stories, they're all true). The 36mp sensor was awesome for base ISO, but once you got beyond 1600 the X-E1 files were way better to work with, they had much better color reproduction and far less color noise. That really shocked me about the a7R... but anyway, I sold the a7R and my 6D and bought myself a barely used a7S.
I loved that it was small and a lot lighter than my 6D. It seemed to fit the bill perfectly, but I hated it's sensor and the noise the shutter made (you've all heard the stories, they're all true). The 36mp sensor was awesome for base ISO, but once you got beyond 1600 the X-E1 files were way better to work with, they had much better color reproduction and far less color noise. That really shocked me about the a7R... but anyway, I sold the a7R and my 6D and bought myself a barely used a7S.
A shot from my a7R with some vintage prime... unfortunately I really can't remember which one (likely a Yashica 50mm of some nature), but this shot took me longer than I'd care for to clean up in post, the color files from the a7R at higher ISO's is seriously just awful. This shot had color noise, color shifts and really hard to adjust white balance.
I really, really loved my a7S. It was the best camera I had ever owned, easily. The images it produced were astounding and the EVF and LCD were great (most of the time). It was a camera I knew would always bring home the bacon when I needed it to, even though everyone (again, on the internet) will tell you that 12mp is utterly useless as a stills camera... false, it's plenty. In fact, if you scroll back and look at the first image I posted in this thread, the one from my 8mp EOS 20D... that's hanging as a 20x30 in my living room right now and I've been complimented on it numerous times, it looks sharp and beautiful from normal viewing distances, 12mp is plenty.
And yet, before long I again found myself wishing it were a bit smaller...
I bought myself an Olympus Pen F 38/1.8 to use on it as a tiny lens solution, and although I loved the images that lens produced (shockingly good really given it's a half frame lens, I didn't even have to crop the images at all), it still left me missing my X-E1... which was something I really didn't anticipate even though I struggled with letting myself sell that camera.
And yet, before long I again found myself wishing it were a bit smaller...
I bought myself an Olympus Pen F 38/1.8 to use on it as a tiny lens solution, and although I loved the images that lens produced (shockingly good really given it's a half frame lens, I didn't even have to crop the images at all), it still left me missing my X-E1... which was something I really didn't anticipate even though I struggled with letting myself sell that camera.
Because I missed my X-E1 so much and because I could afford it I ordered myself a used X-E2 in silver, which was the color I really wanted with my X-E1 anyway (apparently I'm a hipster) so it made me feel better about letting that camera go. I also got the XF 27/2.8 to go with it.
I used the X-E2 as my daily go-everywhere camera and I used the a7S for the more serious paid gigs or night time events or photowalk days (my friend literally laughed out loud when I referred to my a7S as my "big" camera at one point... he shoots with a D800). Then I started to leave the a7S at home more and more often... even after getting a couple of really nice lenses for it, the FE 28mm, which I still miss, and the FE Zeiss 55mm, which I was indifferent towards.
I began to realize that there was much more to the Fuji camera than just the size of it... I loved the body. I loved it's dedicated shutter-speed and aperture dials, it's corner EVF and simpler settings, I also loved how much easier it was to get the look I wanted with it's RAW files largely due to the much better colors straight out of the camera/import.
When the firmware update to version 4.01 came out it was pretty much the biggest nail in the coffin for my a7S, it made the X-E2 feel like an entirely different camera. It vastly improved AF, added remappable buttons (unless that was there beforehand and I just somehow never realized it, which is entirely possible) and the silent shutter mode (a feature I adored on my a7S).
When the firmware update to version 4.01 came out it was pretty much the biggest nail in the coffin for my a7S, it made the X-E2 feel like an entirely different camera. It vastly improved AF, added remappable buttons (unless that was there beforehand and I just somehow never realized it, which is entirely possible) and the silent shutter mode (a feature I adored on my a7S).
I rather quickly began building my Fuji lens collection starting with the XF 35/1.4 (which I had for my X-E1 and regrettably sold), then the XF 18mm, then the Samyang 12mm, then the XF 55-200mm... I had all this for the X-E2 while only 2 lenses for my a7S... all the pieces were coming together for me to realize which system I should be sticking with.
As with the 6D before it, very quickly I began to notice that the Fuji camera was being used far more often and with even more pleasing results than my a7S often times (remember, I loved my a7S).
A shot of my dad with the X-E2 and XF 27mm, showing him how awesome the X-E2's bounceable "Johnny 5" flash was to have while wondering why more cameras don't include one (looking at you X-Pro2!)
I thought long and hard about whether I could give up the "full frame" look of my a7S or it's much better extreme high ISO capabilities. Then I had to ask myself if the "full frame" look was really significant or was it just my learned bias from reading way too much on the internet... it seriously just turns out it's the later for me... even though you would swear I had cursed someone's god by some of the reactions I got saying that in a Sony forum (no hard feelings Sony fans, I still love you and your cameras).
After looking through all my shots with the Zeiss 55mm and my XF 35mm I realized I didn't have a strong preference for one or the other, both were amazing lenses, just different, but the biggest difference for me was the Fuji lens was half the size, weight and cost... oh, and it had that awesome aperture ring that ALL lenses should have... which Sony clearly recognizes since they put them on all of their super-expensive lenses, but leave out the affordable options... the f*** Sony?
Vs; X-Pro2 (more on that later) with XF 35/1.4 wide open
I tried to get the two images I had with the most similar framing and processing... the similar expressions were coincidental. Also note that the DOF of the first image seems much more narrow partially do to the subject being further away from the background (I note it because I can already hear all the caps lock warriors readying their fingers)
It was a similar story between my XF 18/2 and FE 28mm... in terms of DOF and "bokeh" they were pretty darn similar, almost splitting hairs in my opinion. The reason I say I'll miss the FE 28mm will be shocking to many I'm sure... it's because of it's flaws. The lens had character (something the FE 55mm sorely lacks), it had distortion, vignette and it flared sometimes... something we vintage lens fans just love, bring on the flaws! But as far as it's "full frame" look over the XF 18mm... meh.
So then as far as I was concerned the only thing holding me back was the high ISO performance... then I thought about how often I actually needed anything above ISO6400 to be regularly useable... turns out, not super often.
That said, I definitely still wanted a camera that will deliver for my needs at ISO12800, and from the reviews I saw of the X-Pro2, it definitely did. As good as my a7S for high ISO? Flat out... no. Of course not, but does that mean it's bad and that it should feel bad... of course not. In fact, it's bounds ahead of the a7R I owned and I would dare say about as good as my 6D was, which blew my mind at the time coming from my T2i.
That said, I definitely still wanted a camera that will deliver for my needs at ISO12800, and from the reviews I saw of the X-Pro2, it definitely did. As good as my a7S for high ISO? Flat out... no. Of course not, but does that mean it's bad and that it should feel bad... of course not. In fact, it's bounds ahead of the a7R I owned and I would dare say about as good as my 6D was, which blew my mind at the time coming from my T2i.
...but the reality is that I rarely ever need to push a shot beyond ISO12800 and when I do, it's usually nothing special anyway (I only have 2 shots at ISO12,800 in my "personal pics" gallery on Flickr at the time of writing this). So I realized I was ready to jump ship and go Full Fuji... and the thing that really surprised me is that I wasn't the least bit nervous about it!
Even going from my 6D to my a7S made me nervous, I thought for sure I would regret that switch even though I didn't even have any native Canon lenses when I made that switch. With the Fuji switch though, not even a single bead of sweat.
Even going from my 6D to my a7S made me nervous, I thought for sure I would regret that switch even though I didn't even have any native Canon lenses when I made that switch. With the Fuji switch though, not even a single bead of sweat.
So the wait was on for the X-T2 because I had no interest in the X-Pro2. I tried out an X-Pro1 in a store once and didn't really get the appeal of the hybrid viewfinder, to me it just seemed easier to use the EVF at the time. Because I wanted to try out the files of the X-Trans3 though, I decided to go try an X-Pro2 in person and went up to Service Photo in Baltimore.
I almost immediately fell in love with the body. I thought just about everything about it was awesome, even the stuff everyone seems to hate (the ISO dial). What surprised me the most though, was how much I loved the hybrid viewfinder. Having the ERF in the OVF takes away my main concern with the OVF, the fact that it makes it hard to tell if I've actually hit focus... the ERF eliminates that concern, awesome!
After playing with the X-Pro2 for over an hour though (shout out to Service Photo's awesome patience!), I was still fairly sure I wanted the X-T2 largely because I fantasized about owning an X-T1 for it's awesome EVF goodies (I love the picture in picture option).
Because I knew I probably wouldn't be able to get an X-T2 at launch due to the short supply and high demand I began thinking about the X-Pro2 more and more. I then decided if I could find a used one for cheap enough I would go ahead and jump on it since in the worst case scenario I could just sell it and get an X-T2 like I had done previously with my a7R before getting the a7S. So before long I found an absolutely stellar used deal (but I'll talk about that another time) on the X-Pro2 and jumped on it.
I'm now loving the X-Pro2 way more than I thought I would! I've been using the OVF almost exclusively, I never thought that would be the case especially due to all the reviews brushing it off as a minor thing... what are they on, it's fantastic! The OVF is WHY you buy the X-Pro2 in my opinion, and you really don't know what you're missing until you try it... though it's definitely not for everyone (it's virtually useless with anything wider than 18mm and objectively useless with anything beyond 90mm).
Anyway, I'm very happy with my jump back (and now fully) into the Fuji world and I hope my story will inspire anyone else who's on the fence with their full frame kit (or any other) to give Fuji a very serious look... I definitely don't need full frame, it's my suspicion that most people don't either.
Will Fuji be the last system I ever shoot with... I doubt it, I'm far too fickle to make that call at this point... does that make my opinion less valid, that depends on your perception.
You'll note that I italicized the word "love" for each camera I've bought (aside from the a7R), I want my standing to be clear that I'm not calling any of these cameras bad, just that for me the progression back to Fuji was definitely into the system that I loved the most.
People are naturally passionate about the things they own and use, I'm no different. I was passionate about my Rebel, passionate about my 6D, passionate about my a7S and passionate about my X-E2... but this is the first time I've ever felt compelled to write a detailed post about it, this is the first time my initial excitement didn't leave any room for doubt, and this is the first time I've stopped looking at other cameras to buy in a long time.
Fuji, keep doing what you're doing.
Below are various shots from my Fuji cameras with various lenses
X-Pro2 + Samyang 21mm f1.4
X-Pro2 + XF 18mm f2
X-E2 + XF 18mm f2
X-E2 + XF 35mm f1.4
X-E1 + XF 18-55mm f2.8-4
X-Pro2 + XF 18mm f2
X-E1 + XF 35mm f1.4
Nice words. I feel in many things in a same way.
ReplyDeleteXE-1 is still my favourite camera.
Milan
Wow interesting comment!!
DeleteI was Nikonian all my life, since Fm 1my last Nikon was D800 Which I loved over all of my nikons.
ReplyDeleteBUT, got my hand on the x100T and felt involve with photography again, so I waited for the Xpro2 cause I tried xpro1 and did not like.
so I took both cameras to my work days, and shot side by side, and in a month I sold ALL MY NIKON STUFF , that also was a lot.
now everything it fits in tiny bags, my neck and back appreciates it.
great story by the way.
My "X-Pro2 story" is somewhat similar... ;-) I came from Sony (SLT), went over to Nikon (D7000) and then found my Fuji "starter drug", the (original) X100 in 2012. Soon after I had the X-E1 - at the beginning only with the XF 18-55 since I got some primes for the D7000 already. After a detour to Sigma (DP1 and DP2 Merrill - at the time I used the D7000, the X100, the X-E1 and the Sigmas alongside each other) I wanted to go for the X-T1 but then decided to invest in Fuji glass first (XF 23/1.4 and 14/2.8). When I finally was ready to buy the X-T1, the X-T10 came...so I got my first X-T10 instead and the XF 56/1.2. About two months later my second X-T10 arrived, together with the XF 90/2. After I got that last lens, I got rid of my Nikon kit (the only reason to keep it for so long was the AF-S 85/1.8, I had no substitue for untiol the 90/2 arrived). Afterwards I got the XF 27/2.8.
ReplyDeleteBut "back" to the X-Pro2...When the X-Pro2 was around the corner, I decided to sit it out and wait for the X-T2. Since it was so hard to come by a X-T2, I grew impatient and decided to buy the X-Pro2 instead (in October 2016). I also got the XF 35/2 and was stupied enough to buy it separately since I didn't realize then that it was sold in kit with the X-Pro2 as well. 200€out the window...at least I got 100€ cashback on the X-Pro2. Just one month later I bought the X-T2 as well...lol
At first I regretted not to have gotten two X-T2s instead and I even thought about selling the X-Pro2 to get another X-T2. But I kept it and love it now...although I almost exclusively use it for street photography and definitely prefer the X-T2 for all the other stuff...
Nice story, thank you.
ReplyDeleteI also used a E2 for 3 years then switched to an X-T1. A few months ago, I had the opportunity to get a Pro2 at a real bargain price and I could not resist to the appeal of the 24MP x3 sensor. I currently use both of them, for they complement each other nicely.
I have two questions:
1- The EVF on the T1 is significantly better than the one of the E2. But to me , the Pro2 EVF is signicantly less good than the one of the E2, which looks surprising since their specs are identical (IQ wise). Do you share this observation?
2.- IMO again, the files from the Xtrans3 are more noisy (iso 800-3200)than the ones from the Xtrans2. Would you agree with that?
As far as I know, the X-E2, X-Pro2 and X-T1/T2 got essentially the same EVF (the same display) but of course different viewfinder magnifications. The X-T1/T2 got 0.77x magnification, the X-Pro2 got 0.36x/0.6x magnification for the OVF (depending on the focal length of the used lens) and 0.59x for the EVF. Fuji didn't provide any official information on EVF magnification for the X-E2 (or X-E1 which should have the same) but it was estimated to be 0.62x. So it would appear slightly bigger than the X-Pro2's (which would explain your observation). I gave away my X-E1 long before I got my X-Pro2. So I cannot test it mayself (provided the X-E1 even had the same EVF magnification as the X-E2).
DeleteThe X-Pro1 had an OVF magnification of 0.42x/0.6x. Guess they changed it to 0.36x/0.6x on the X-Pro2 to make it more useable with Fuji's nowadays broader lens offering.
Thank you for reading and for your commentary!
DeleteI did notice something was off about the EVF of my X-Pro2 when I first got it, but I quickly discovered (at least for me) that the problem was due to the automatic brightness setting for the EVF... I found that it almost always made the EVF too dark. I've since set it to -2 or -1 for most situations just like I used to use on my X-E2 and it's been great! Oddly, my X-T1's auto brightness seems to work just fine though, so not sure what's going on with it on the X-Pro2, though it doesn't matter much to me since I use the OVF a majority of the time anyway.
As for the extra noise... I've actually observed the opposite. Well, actually in my opinion the difference in actual noise levels is pretty much a wash, but the grain on the X-Pro2 files is finer and less obtrusive for most subjects. I'm comfortable using any of my cameras all the way up to (and sometimes beyond) ISO6400 though.
Interesting journey - similar to mine except with Nikon and I never did a full switch. I like your thoughts between the A7s and Fuji. I'm keeping my D800, for all the benefits it has, but am looking for a good everyday rig for my old nikkor glass - which raises the question- which system handles manual focus lenses better. I'm more concerned with focus aids as my eyes fail me more than anything. Thx
ReplyDeleteIf you can live with APS-C, the X-T2 (or X-T1 for that matter) will be your by far best option. Not only is the EVF huge but it also offers very decent manual focus assist tools. The following video gives a good overview. It all works in the EVF as well and the strength and color of focus peaking highlighting can be adjusted. Of course it's also possible to preset your preferred focus assist method. So the camera automatically switches to it as soon as the MF mode is activated.
Deletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTORbS1-DgY
I actually find that I prefer to use manual focus with my X-Pro2 over my X-T1 for most lenses. If you often use manual lenses beyond the useable range of the OVF though (around 50mm the frame starts to get a little small) then the X-T1 would be the better fit.
DeleteI use my Rokinon 85mm on my X-T1 more comfortably, but I much prefer to use my 21mm f1.4, 12mm f2 and any of my numerous legacy 50mm's on my X-Pro2. When using the ERF with a magnified image, manual focusing is extremely easy and fast. The X-T1/T2 work similarly when using the dual EVF mode, but that mode makes the composing frame much smaller and it puts the magnified frame far enough to the side that I feel like I focus entirely on the magnified frame when shooting and often forget to check my composition before releasing the shutter.
I would recommend bringing your favorite manual lenses to a camera store that has both cameras and try for yourself. I've spoken to plenty of photographers who prefer the X-T1/2 for manual focus and plenty of others who, like me, prefer the X-Pro2. It'd be best to try both and make up your own mind ;)